ODTUG Member Series: The Maker


  • Name: Cary Millsap
  • Location: Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
  • Age check box: 45+
  • Current career age: ~32 years
  • # of years involved with ODTUG: ~12–15 years
  • Company: Accenture Enkitec Group (Performance Specialist), Method R Corporation (Founder and President)
  • Technology identifiers: Software performance focus with a specialty in Oracle Database
  • Twitter: @CaryMillsap
  • Blogs:


  • Oracle ACE Award: Oracle ACE Director


The first time I ever knew of Cary Millsap was when he gave the keynote speech at Kscope12. His presentation was about the many life and career lessons he had learned. I remember laughing, feeling empathy, and also relating well to his keynote. His slides blew me away—I learned a few great lessons about public speaking from that event. I then saw him again when he was the presenter at a DOUG (Dallas Oracle Users Group) meeting last year.

Cary is an icon in the Oracle world. A resident of the Dallas/Fort Worth area, he founded his own company, Method R, in 2008 and still runs it today. He speaks at events on a regular basis and is known for both his technical and presentation skills.

As I interviewed others for this blog series, Cary's name came up several times. "Yeah, he does...woodworking?" one person mentioned. Cary's name was also mentioned in the same sentence as "machine shop" and "I don't know exactly what you call his hobby." Intrigued, I decided to follow up.


(Cary, the avid Texas Rangers fan! In this picture he’s in the dugout of Globe Life Park in Arlington, Texas, and the guy out of focus to his right is 1985 World Series MVP Jim Sundberg.)

Interesting Things About Cary

  • He has ~50 hours of solo time in the Cessna 150. He completed his solo cross-country when he was 16, but he did not complete his private pilot license.
  • He lettered in golf in college.
  • In 1988, Cary was the Colorado State Taekwondo free-sparring champion in the non-black-belt division.
  • He's a huge Texas Rangers baseball fan. Baseball runs in his family. His grandfather played professional baseball, and many members of his wife’s family have played college and pro baseball. One of his sons is a high school sophomore who expects to play NCAA Division I baseball. His biggest worry this summer is trying to fit his son’s baseball tournament schedule into his calendar.
  • He eats a lot of sunflowers seeds. He says it helps him keep his mouth shut at games. J
  • He and his wife have been married for over 20 years.

So...What Is Cary's Hobby?

Cary hates labels. Therefore, he originally left it to me to figure out the title of this blog post. Being ignorant on this particular hobby, I wasn't sure how to express this well so he came up with the term maker. We needed something that expressed both interests of woodworking and metalworking.

In a nutshell, Cary has a shop at his house. In this shop, he works with wood and metal. Cary often tells his kids: “There are two types of people in this world: breakers and fixers. It’s really easy to break things; it’s a lot harder to fix them. I expect you to be both.” He has created a place where his maker skills can break, fix, and create cool stuff.


(his Rotary Broach Holder project plans from November 2015)

The Roots

Over 18 years ago, Cary's hobby started with a need. He and his wife needed furniture. But what they wanted—the antique, sturdy, heavy wood kind—was really expensive (and still is to this day). Nothing they found was exactly what they were looking for. So he decided to build his own. He started this journey by buying and reading a bunch of books. He applied Agile methods to his woodworking and learned a lot through trial and error.

His first woodworking tool was a stationary belt sander. There was a wooden panel for the front of their dishwasher that the builder didn’t install. The cabinetmaker had cut it the wrong size, so the installer couldn’t put it in. So Cary used the sander to “sand to a line,” and made the panel fit onto the front of the dishwasher. This small project built up his confidence. So he thought, what the heck—let’s try to build a kitchen table! So he bought a cheap table saw, some chisels, and a drill press.


(Building the kitchen table in the Millsap garage—humble beginnings. Every night he had to move all this stuff out of the way so he and his wife could park their cars.)

He figured out quickly that to build a square table he had to upgrade the saw, but he ended up building the entire table from just these few tools. “So when you buy furniture, you pay a huge price for someone else’s work, and, of course, you end up with furniture. When you build it yourself, you buy tools with all the money you save; and then when you’re done, you get to keep the furniture and the tools!”


(final kitchen table, built from a few tools)

That successful project then led to various bookcases, picture frames, desktop accessories, a sewing desk, and even a solid walnut office desk for one of his employees. Eventually, he and his wife added a proper workshop to their home.

A few years ago, Cary decided that he needed to be able to work with metal, too. So with his wood shop, he built his own metal shop—his “miniature” metal shop.


(the Millsap “metal shop”—made in the Millsap wood shop)

Why Metalworking and Woodworking?

In school, Cary studied math and computer science. When he went to work at Oracle Corporation in 1989, he was awestruck by the things that the people around him could do. “I was hanging around with all these people who could actually do stuff,” Cary said. “I could predict stuff, but these guys could actually do stuff. We used to joke that one of my friends in particular was so talented that he could take an old toaster and some bicycle parts and have Unix up and running on it in half a day. I wanted to be more like that. I had spent so much time living inside my own head; I wanted to be able to learn to do some things that I could actually show people.”

Cary wanted to learn how to turn a tree into a table. So he did.


(Cary's hand-drawn plans for some whatchamacallits, some kind of flange-whatevers. Note the nerdy advanced math equations.)

Advice for Newbies?

Cary offers the following advice for anyone who wants to learn how to be a woodworker and/or metalworker:

  1. You have to be patient (safety first!).
  2. You have to know how to do it right (safety first!).

People learn in different ways, and Cary knows this. He's the type of person who likes to read about something first—to get the theory of it in his head—and then try it. If you're like him, he recommends the book Tabletop Machining by Joe Martin. If you want to try this hobby out but not invest in all the equipment, you can find shops—“maker labs”—in your area that rent out the space and tools for a fee.

However, be forewarned: running table saws, lathes, mills, and other serious machinery can actually kill you. These machines can throw parts into your body if you don't use them properly. It’s way more dangerous than cutting off a finger, which is what most people are afraid of.

What's Up Next?

As a kid, Cary was a plastic model builder. It’s still an interest of his (in the winter months when there’s no baseball). A couple of Christmases ago, his family gave him a 1:8 scale plastic model of an early piston aircraft engine. Now with his lathe and mill, he makes scaled nuts and bolts that measure in millimeters. He actually uses a microscope to help him. Take a look at the below picture.


Seems like your set of standard random metal parts, right?

Now look again—only scaled this time.


Pretty cool, huh? Eventually, Cary would like to be published in a magazine that focuses on model building—model builder “porn,” he calls it.

Good luck, Cary! Thanks for the great interview!

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